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dance clubs make more money than the slots a lot of times in las vegas. >> i always find it is depressing when you're leaving las vegas in the airport, and there are people at the slot machines, they have spent their money and the weekend is over and returning to their lives. >> come on, you never lost your last dollar at a gas station or come on, you haven't lived. >> i haven't lived, be sure to tune in with anthony bourdain, "parts unknown." and cnn tonight with bill weir starts right now. good evening, i'm bill weir. and this is "cnn tonight." as we head into the weekend tonight so many remain gripped on what is happening on the other side of the world, and the words that spelled doom for a plane. and a source told cnn that
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investigators have a better idea of exactly where flight 370 made its sharp left turn away from its designated flight path to beijing, and just how high the airliner was flying afterwards. and off the waters of south korea, 270 people still remain missing two days after the ferry made a turn and capsized. we have word on what is happening in the frigid waters of the capsize boat. and now, police in boston are on the hunt for sibling lone wolf bombers, what have we learned since? and are american cities any safer? i'll ask the deputy who runs one of the most counterterrorism divisions in the world. first, we'll have more on the sunken ferry off south korea. the 69-year-old captain of the
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ferry is now under arrest, although prosecutors say he was not at the helm of the ship when the disaster unfolded. and we have this new cell phone video taken on the ferry as it slowly capsized. remember how the captain ordered the crew and passengers to stay where they were as it capsized. and being oh obedient, many of them perished. cnn's kyung lah has more from south korea, tell us what is happening in the water right now. >> reporter: what is happening right now is that the coast guard tells us that they have managed to lay these search lines, if you will, underneath the water around the ferry, around the third floor. and the fourth floor. and what that allows divers to do is to painstakingly make their way around this ferry and look room by room. they tell us that so far divers
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have not been able to get inside the vessel. but that is the goal. they have been able to glimpse inside, but they can't exactly make out what some floating objects are. so at this point it is still a 24-hour search operation. and they are still ferventalfer looking for survivors, bill. >> first of all, is there hope that there are air pockets to keep them alive. and is there a plan to bring the giant hull back to the surface? >> the cranes are the goal here as far as lifting the hull out of the surface. but this is a long-term goal. this is not something somewhat is going to happen right away. the cranes have to be in place and they will slowly lift it. but this could take weeks if not months. and it is a very large vessel. it is going to take some time. is there hope? it is a very difficult thing to talk about. because the odds, the facts are
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absolutely against any survivors being pulled out of the water at this point. the possibility of air pockets, perhaps, but it is very, very slim, bill. but no one wants to tell these parents. and remember, we're talking about many, many high school students here. no one wants to tell these parents that they have given up hope and that this is a search for any survivors. >> and this is heartbreaking, this was a vice principal. he got off the ship, they found his body. apparently he had hung himself. and rough translation of the suicide note. please hold me responsible for this. i pushed for the school excursion. cremate the body and spread the ashes over the site. i may become a teacher in the after life for the bodies yet to be found. what is sad is to think of the
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low birth rate in the country. so for a lot of parents that was the only child. tell me about the cultural expectationin-- expectations of kids to listen to those in authority. >> reporter: well, there are a couple of questions, first regarding suicide. the oecd ranks korea the highest in suicide. there is a culture, a sense of shame that carries a lot of weight, a huge burden here. and when you talk about survivor's guilt, it is a huge risk here. that is why there is so many counselors here at this particular dock. that is why they're surrounding the parents. there is also stigma against mental health. so nobody is really talking to counselors right now. it is a cauldron right now, as far as parents and survivors. that is a huge problem here. there is another cultural thing that you touched on. the students who sat on this
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ship as it was sinking, they stayed in place as it was tilting. why? because children are taught here in south korea to be obedient above all else, to listen to your elders. that is truly prized here in south korea. so for us in the u.s. it is very difficult for us to understand how is it that they can stay put? but here it is an expectation that you would listen to a loud speaker warning from the captain of a ship to stay in place. >> i want to ask you about the fate of the captain in custody if you will hang out with us for just a moment. i also want to bring in our accident investigator. james, thank you for joining us. we're still trying to figure out what caused this calamity. you hear reports of passengers hearing a loud bang and things starting to fall below. do you have a hunch as to what
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happened to tip it to its side? >> sorry, bill, but i do not. the noise that it made could have been striking a rock, which could have caused flooding from outside into the vessel. i don't have information on the configuration of the vessel, unfortunately. also there are other things that could have caused flooding. there could have been an internal breakage, a pipe through explosion or otherwise. depending on the nature of that noise they heard. but certainly water got into the ship. free surface water going to the low side took over. and caused the ship to capsize. >> now, do you have any sense -- i know we're all struggling to figure out what the configuration is. but air-tight compartments in the bottom that somehow could hold out hope that some kids got themselves in there and sealed
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themselves. and some semblance of safety, is that wishful thinking? >> well, i think -- i would hope that the air tight compartments that they got themselves into are in what would have been the top of the ship. now the bottom because of -- she is laying upside down. because there is a large auto deck and there are tanks underneath that, that they probably wouldn't get into. and it would be far more difficult for them to get out of the ship unless they are near the top of the super structure. >> kyung lah, what charges are the captain facing? lee joon seok, if i am pronouncing that correctly. what is he up against? >> reporter: he is hardly a novice, and your pronunciation is quite good. he is facing a series of
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charges, they range from bodily injury, leading to harm, to abandoning ship. these are criminal charges that carry anything from five years to life. it is something that these pare parents, the people you see on this dock, it is something that they wanted. they want somebody to pay but it is not helping them as far as bringing their children home. and he is not a novice, you're right. he has been a captain on the seas for many, many years. we should point out that he was not at the helm. the person on the helm was a much less experienced junior officer, the third officer on the ship. >> it so reminds us of the costa concordia, the captain claims it was the crew's fault. thanks to you, and kyung lah, in south korea, thank you, as well. and coming up. from flight 370, new information on where the jetliner was when it flew off course.
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well, it is search day 43. off the coast of australia
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looking for missing flight 370. michael holmes is live in perth, and nic robertson in kuala lumpur. nick, good morning to you down under. what is the latest on the bluefin mission? ongoing again? >> reporter: yeah, it is ongoing. we're waiting to get the latest update from the search organizers. it should have been in by now, and you think about it now, bill, that is three out of five missions had some sort of trouble. the fifth mission was aborted shortly after launch due to some problems with the navigation system, we're told. that is according to the u.s. navy. since the bluefin did not go to the ocean floor, of course, there was no side scan sonar data to review on that mission. of course, the bluefin-21 was relaunched. we're told it is on its sixth mission. there were no problems with the
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first five. bluefin-21 had not identified any wreckage, but had when it was working performed pretty well in terms of the detail of that 3-d side scan sonar images of the ocean floor, bill. >> okay, you know, for weeks, we were under the impression, nic robertson, that the pilots turned off the transponder before they got into the vietnamese air space to avoid detection. but you have new information that counters that. please tell us. >> reporter: yeah, what the source familiar with the investigation is telling us is that the aircraft actually passed into vietnamese air space. we remember the last communication at 1:19 in the morning over to the air traffic control cockpit, was passing over the malaysian air space. what we're told is that it actually entered the vietnamese air space when it made that l d left-hand turn, quite a gentle
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left-hand turn. we're told when it made that left-hand turn over the malaysian peninsula that is when it climbed 13,000 feet. and held that altitude for about 29 minutes before beginning what was a descent taking it well off the malacca straits, traveling another 100 or so nautical miles before climbing back up in altitude. so what we're learning for this source is that the turn happens in vietnamese air space, and then this climb in altitude, it seems to be a controlled climb in altitude. yet again it is another piece of information that really doesn't solve this in any way. it perhaps provides useful clues for investigators. but really it is just another piece of information that really doesn't take us hugely further forward as far as investigators are concerned here, bill. >> and this one doesn't either. it involves the emergency location transmitter, the elts,
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your source said something on that, as well. >> reporter: yeah, he told us there are four of these automatic emergency locater transmitters on board the aircraft. one in the rear door, one in the forward door, one in the cockpit, the fuselage, the ones in the door are associated with the emergency evacuation chutes. which become sort of an inflatable dinghies, if you will, a way to keep people afloat on the water. he said these hadn't transmitted on their frequencies or those frequencies had not been picked up upon by satellite or by nearby ships or aircraft in the area. these devices are designed to be triggered to come on, on impact, or on immersion in water. i discussed with him can you
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take inference from this that perhaps it didn't come in contact with water? you remember how the plane landed on the hudson, did the aircraft go like that and tip down underneath the waves before the water could get inside the aircraft and trigger the beacons? perhaps it came on when it was sinking. this source couldn't say that, but this is one of the alternatives. potentially that could be the case, but again, this is just another piece of information that investigators say it is odd but can't take it further forward than that, bill. >> okay, nic, why don't we bring in experts on that and follow up on that. david souci, author of "why planes crash." and a professor of physics at the florida institute of technology. i am sure, i butchered your
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name, apologies for that. and i saw something today, when the former commerce secretary, ron brown's plane crashed in croatia, they did no go on land, these are four of the most dependable. what do you say about four of them didn't go off? >> yes, this is very interesting, when the elts were developed in the '70s, the reliability rate was very low, only about 25% of the time did they go off. this has improved over time. the latest number we have is about an 80% activation rate. so there is a 20% factor that says they wouldn't go off. but all four? this is again one of the many strange elements of this disappearance, of which we're into the seventh or so week of now, 43 days. another question mark to add to
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the growing number of questions we have about mh-370. >> yeah, david souci, what do you know about these elts? is it something you could shut off? are they built into the raft slides, the emergency exit slides? >> well, there are two or three different kinds we're talking about here. the one on the nose is only a deceleration, the other two by the doors are activated by water. so they're not expected to go off by a deceleration. the one in the back is activated. an elt by deceleration sensor and by salt water. but remember the two in the back once they're in water that he can't transmit. because they're not sonar, they're not sounds, they're
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radio frequencies, so once they're in the water they can't transmit sound. >> let me ask you about the theory of the sinking. what is the depth and the pressure of the ocean on a plane like that do to the wreckage itself? >> well, it depends on what happens if the plane comes down in the water. if the plane comes down relatively intact, it lands on the water and then sinks. if there is a large air pocket and it fills with water and the plane descends when it gets to a certain pressure, there will be a big pressure differential. so it will implode. however, if it fills quickly then the pressure will be equal on the inside and outside. and the plane will remain intact. and so at the depth of this plane at about 10,000 feet which is the depth of the ocean there we're looking at 455 times atmospheric pressure. >> wow, that is hard to fathom.
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we appreciate your in put. and coming up, two men sworn to protect the biggest target in the world, new york city. you know it was russia that tipped the fbi that tamerlan tsarnaev was a threat. can we still depend on the russians given the situation? i'll have that and much more. if you wear a denture, touch it with your tongue.
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i look at that, one, if it is al-qaeda central command striving for the -- it is not relevant, give the appearance of
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relevance, by putting things out if they were alive and still operating. they have been degraded through an extraordinary degree of key operational commanders almost in rapid succession over a period of decades. so i think in some measure it is a propaganda piece. in another measure, al-qaeda central has also had a habit over the past decade of foreshadowing events with some kind of symbolic communications. so you always have to look at that. >> public appetite has -- changed when it comes to counterterrorism units. they would go into the muslim community, coffee shops and sometimes write down the license plates of every car in the mosque parking lot. you just dissolved that. i wonder why. >> well, coming back into the nypd, we're looking at every unit in the department, not just
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in the counterterrorism department. they were not violating any laws or procedures, but we looked at it as was it no longer necessary? if i looked at it in the years that it existed, it was not a single actionable case that came out of all that time, energy and effort. >> it you boil it down between the good community outreach officer saying who is who in the community, and maybe a guy saying where the restaurants and stores were did it become more of a distraction than it was worth? i think if you look at the period of time moving forward from september 11th up to the boston marathon bombing, you see 500 prosecutions or investigations that led to arrests involving terrorists. you also see out of some of those cases, about 50 of them,
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if they shoot someone, blow something up, 15 of them were targeted against new york city. some of them we were lucky, if you look at shazad, he drives a truck into new york city, and despite the fact he had a mistake in his execution in the chemical makeup of the bomb, we would be having a very different conversation. the flip side of that coin is that you risk becoming a victim of your own success. if you go a decade without a 9/11 type attack, you have a boston marathon bombing, a fort hood, a couple of close calls along the way, people say do we really need all of this? do we need all of this protection really? and that is where we struggle for a balance every day. because al-qaeda has just
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published a magazine saying attack new york city. by the way, here is a recipe for a truck bomb. either the taliban or the pakistani taliban published the magazine just last month saying we're fighting over here in foreign lands. but those in new york should rise up and do what they can there in terms of violent action. so you know we live every day with the threat. >> the reality is, they're going to keep coming. the reality has changed. this is not a threat that is going to end with a peace treaty. that is the reality of our world and it will be the reality of our children's world and their children. it is the new era, if you will, and we're constantly seeking to evolve to protect against those threats as they morph and multiply and diffuse. and administrations change and leadership changes, but this one
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is always going to be one of primary focus. >> and this new report of the al-qaeda leader, of course in an audio message on a radical website says that the threat is greater and president obama know s it. in a related air, al shabaab issued a threat saying we'll blow you up until we finish you off. coming up later, new developments on flight 370. and well check back with our team in south korea, where there is breaking news, divers inside the sunken ferry. and then coming up next, a news anchor has a panic attack in front of millions of viewers and thought his career was sunk. but led to a discovery. hi, i'm jay farner, president of quicken loans. and we're here in detroit michigan helping folks refinance their homes and save money. does it make sense to refinance right now? a lot of times we can lower the monthly payment, we can consolidate debt. we just want to make sure that you know your options,
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if you fear public speaking in the least, you can probably relate to the horror show i'm about to show you. this is what a panic attack in front of 5 million people looks like. >> providing a big bonus,
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researchers report people who take cholesterol-lowering drugs called statins, may also lower their risk for cancer. >> he is paid to be a public speaker, that is dan harris, anchor of "nightline." that meltdown turned out to be a key turning point in a life journey that includes cocaine and ecstasy, relentless ambition and "inner peace," all described in his book, 10% happier, how he found self help that actually works, a true story. and because we have been friends and colleagues for over ten years, it is a treat to welcome you to the set. >> absolutely, i'm sorry for that record title. >> i love it. but what i love more is that you originally wanted to call this book the voice in my head is [ bleep ]. >> can you say that on cable
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television? >> you would believe it. and i haven't told you this, i don't think, ever. but until i really got to know you i used to think the voice on the outside of your head was an [ bleep ]. >> just for watching that television or watching me around the office? >> well, you know, you got to abc before i did. >> yes. >> and i had no idea what a gladiator tool it was in terms of hyper-competitive -- >> not like the pillow talk of cnn. >> but you got to covering wars. >> covering wars after 9/11. >> and it takes a special breed of cat not only to want to crave the spotlight but to go to wars and disaster areas. and what was your mind space back in those days? >> i really wanted to get ahead, ands i was green, i came to abc at 28, i worked with these giants like peter jennings. and my way of compensating was
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to become a workaholic. >> and it is a high, high, and low, low. >> right, sometimes in the same minute. >> so what led to the moment we just showed. >> so i went to spend three years in places like afghanistan, middle east, israel, gaza, palestine. so when i came home, i got depressed. i wasn't self-aware enough to know i was depressed. i had a low fever, i self-medicated, and after the panic attack, he asked me the question, do i do drugs? and when i said yes, he gave me the look, okay, idiot. so i knew i had to make changes. >> so your disaster experience was melting down on gma. and did you start on a journey of inner peace, or was it an
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accident? >> i think a lot of it was an accident and unplanned. after the doctor said you are being an idiot. you need to stop using drugs, and your personal choices are destroying your career. i knew i needed to see the doctor. that was a space of curiosity. and then i stumbled on a book by the guru, and that is when things got serious. he had this diagnosis of the human condition that i never heard of before. this voice in our head, commonly telling us what to do, thinking about the past instead of focusing on what is going on right now. and when i read that, i realized that is the voice that led me to do all the dumb things that led to the panic attack. >> and you found meditation? >> yes. >> you said the thing that stuck hardest, i picture myself in an
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unbearable cross position, with a group of practitioners, hoping to float off into -- into. sort of cosmic group. >> you don't have to wear anything special, pay fees, it is brain exercise, there is an enormous amount of science that says it can boost your immune system, lower your blood pressure, and re-wire key parts of your brain. studies at harvard says it grows gray matter in the area of self-awareness, and reduces the areas associated with stress. >> i want to do it. >> keep your eyes closed. >> you can't do it laying in bed. >> you can. there are many ways to do it. i'm going to give you the basic. eyes closed. focus on the part of your body where you feel your breath most prominently. your belly, chest, nose, you are
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smirking. >> holding back with the wise comments. >> so you feel your breath. the third step is the big one, which is when your mind wanders, which it will a million times, which is why did i agree to do this? i miss dan harris so much. all that stuff, when your mind wanders you have to catch it and bring your attention back. that is the process for the brain, every time you do that, you break a lifetime of habit walking around in the day dream of the past. >> it is hard. >> oh, yeah, really hard. >> how long does it take if you feel the result? >> you will feel the result if you do five minutes a day, you will feel it almost immediately. >> what did you feel about the meltdown? >> it is embarrassing when i see it. i have numbed to it a million times, but it is embarrassing. the only regret i have one is a
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counterintuitive. there is a reason why executives, the head of ford motor company, the army, the marines, the scientists, doctors, lawyers, skeptical newsmen are doing this because it is a super power. it helps you not get yanked around by your emotions and helps you focus on what you're ding. >> number one on the new york times best seller list, 10% happier. and coming up, we'll bring you the latest on the south korean ferry disaster. when we come back. or fall in yum with our chicken primavera, always served with unlimited salad and breadsticks. the all new spring seasonal menu at olive garden.
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divers in count korea are discovering bodies. hosted the science channel's outrageous science. pauline, bring us the latest on the recovery effort. sounds like what we have been fearing. >> reporter: yeah, we are fearing the death toll will go up and the coast guard is holding a news conference. they came out with that information that divers have made it inside of the ship. at the third level, they spotted
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three floating bodies. the third level is where several bedrooms are. most of the bedrooms were on the fourth level where the high school students were. the divers said they tried to break in to the window this morning where they saw the bodies but they were unsuccessful. so they are going to try again. the coast guard is saying they have a plan for today. they are going to make 40 attempts with the divers. they have more than 600 divers on standby. these are civilian and government divers but the conditions are difficult. visibility is really low and there are strong currents. yesterday when the divers went in they were trying to set up the search line from the rescue ves toll the ship. two divers were able to get to a certain distance at the freight area and then it got cut off. gives you an idea how strong the currents are and how difficult the challenges are. we know there are four cranes stoo
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standby at the site. they want the divers to get in just in case there are survivors as we are going to day three of this rescue operation. my colleague paula hancocks is on a ship there and e-mailed saying there are more than 100 vessels ready to help out and two helicopters and she is smelling a strong odor of oil and seeing an oil slick out there. i want to draw your attention to a press conference behind me. you can see this big crowd. they are down by the harbor. this is where officials are giving the latest information to families. you see the media there. parents are yelling at officials right now. one mother said how are we supposed to live? so you are seeing a lot of emotion. this is what we have been seeing the past three days or so, bill. the parents have a sense that they feel precious time was wasted and too much waffling in the beginning wondering what was happen tong their children.
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the death toll is at 29. the central government in seoul has sent over dozens of ambulances on standby because the death toll is expected to rise. >> so sad. thank you for the update, as well. we will turn from tragedy at sea to tragedy the on the roof of the world. mt. everest. a place synonymous with limits. the upper limits of earth and rock, intolerable limits of oxygen and the place to test the level of guts and grit. amazing to think the world has television before man could reach the top of the mountain. "i love lucy" was on the air for the first summit. 61 years later a man will jump from everest in primetime because that's the new limit. what was once unreachable is overrun. see that line looks like aunt an
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ants. thousands of attempts. over 500 people reached the top. the mountain is terribly polluted an crowded. after a brawl at 22,000 feet there are nepalese policemen up there to pooe keep the police. just when we think that man has overcome earth's limits comes a reminder of who's boss. early this morning an avalanche took the lives of 12 chsherpas. these are local guides whose livelihoods depend on rich western withers with lofty bucket lists and some have called for fewer climbing permits but after the deadliest day they may have to consider the value. when we come back the latest on the bluefin search. or more o. everybody knows that. well, did you know bad news doesn't always travel fast?
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it's just about 10:00 a.m. australian time off of the coast of western australia. there's another development in the search for flight 370. the bluefin's seventh mission underway. i want to go back to michael holmes in perth. michael? >> reporter: yeah, bill. i just got word in the last few minutes really that the sixth mission is completed by the bluefin-21 there scouring the ocean floor and looking for any
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sign of malaysia flight 370. the sixth mission over. normally it takes about four hours to download the data, recharge the batteries and get the seventh mission underway. the fifth mission was aborted shortly after its launch yesterday due to problems with the navigation system. that's according to the u.s. navy. since it didn't get to the ocean floor, there was no side scan sonar from that mission. we're told about 133 square kilometers, 50 square miles has been covered of this newly focused search area, probably less than a week and they will have the whole lot looked at. of course everyone waiting to see if they will find any sign of the aircraft. i will tell you briefly talking to people involved in the search there's still a high level of confidence they are in the right spot. of course, nothing yet. back to you. >> michael holmes, appreciate it. this is cnn breaking news.
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>> good evening. i'm bill weir. it is 10:00 in the east, late morning saturday in south korea. breaking news tonight, divers have entered the sunken ferry and discovered bodies. as of right now, 29 people who were on board are confirmed dead. 270 remain missing and unaccounted for. cnn's pauline chiou is in south korea. >> reporter: here's the latest information out of the search. [ inaudible ] now the divers were able to reach the third level of the ship. now, this is a level where many of the bedrooms were. most of the bedrooms were on the fourth level, where the high school students who were on that